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- The true mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna in this episode will be familiar to fans of one of the Doctor Who spinoff shows.
There is a throwaway line at the end of the episode that relates the Time Beetle to the Trickster (from SJA)
- Oliver Morgenstern from 'Smith And Jones' is back and in fine form.
Yup, he appears on a news report saying Martha Jones is dead
- Donna suggests that footage of a Titanic replica spaceship flying towards Buckingham Palace is actually from a sequel to the famous Leonardo DiCaprio/Kate Winslet film.
Most probably, since the Titanic crashes into Buckingham and wipes out South England.
- There's a Wayne's World moment where Donna and Wilf sing Queen's 'Bohemian Rhapsody'.
There's a possible hint to this happening in the Fear Forcast, as one of the boys begins to sing.
- Rose Tyler tells Donna that The Darkness is coming. Donna tells her that she saw them live in 2004 and they only had one good song.
Don't know about Donna's snappy reply, but Rose definitely talks of the coming dark.
- Donna insults someone by calling them Vera Duckworth.
From set reports, yup, this is true.
- Mr Chaudhary's wandering hands cause Donna some consternation.
Possibly, don't really know anything about the character.
- Rose tells Donna two vital words to pass onto The Doctor. The first one is a name of an old enemy last seen in an escape pod. The second is "lives".
This apparently happens at the end of the Stolen Earth... old enemy in space pod be Davros, and the second one be about a certain other Time Lord who is still alive.
- Donna has a beetle on her back and soon Wilf finds antlers on his head too.
Well, Donna definitely has a beetle on her back. Tis a time beetle that she picked up in a carnival on Shan Shen.
"It's like there's something I can't see."
"This stapler says '***'."
"I think you should leave me alone."
"You're not going to make the world any better by shouting at it."
"Why won't you tell me **** **** (your name?)"
"England for the English."
One more thing...
Something BIG is coming
Well, did you notice a character in Next Time trailer who was killed off in an earlier episode?
ReplyDeleteDon't believe me?
Scroll down towards the bottom of this post and look for yourself:
Turn Left Again
SO, might we be in the alternate Pete's World?
ahoj
Yay! As I said before, I think the first one is a reference to the Trickster from SJA. (But it's not true.)
ReplyDelete'czechout', i don't think the soldier is Ross from the Sontaran two-parter, but i think it definately is one of the hypnotised soldiers! Any ideas?
ReplyDeletewhat did Rose say when Donna asked who she was???
ReplyDeleteThink Rose said something like 'I was like you'
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, I thought so too! (That the soldier wasn't Ross.)
ReplyDeleteRose tells Donna two vital words to pass onto The Doctor. The first one is a name of an old enemy last seen in an escape pod. The second is "lives"
ReplyDeleteOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE BE TRUE. PLEASE BE TRUE!!!
Drat, cbox is down.
ReplyDeleteis it
ReplyDeleteTurn left looks great, defintely looking forward to it. Rose & Donna team up, what could beat that? The doctor's dead???? how on Earth could that possibly happen? I saw the next time trailer and I just gasped.
ReplyDeleteI'm not too familiar with the old series so correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that Sgt. Bambera saying "Powering up"?
ReplyDeleteThe true mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna in this episode will be familiar to fans of one of the Doctor Who spinoff shows.
ReplyDeleteowen's death?
Rose tells Donna two vital words to pass onto The Doctor. The first one is a name of an old enemy last seen in an escape pod. The second is "lives".
i think we all know what that is....
>>Rose tells Donna two vital words to pass onto The Doctor. The first one is a name of an old enemy last seen in an escape pod. The second is "lives"
ReplyDeleteOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE BE TRUE. PLEASE BE TRUE!!!<<
Last seen in an escape pod, though...who's that? Not the Master, he was last seen on fire. Davros then? I haven't seen Resurrection of the Daleks (and don't even know if it's the last we see of him), but it mentions in the plot synopsis that he has an escape pod ready.
I'm sure people who have been fans longer would know. I'm simply throwing guesses out based on a little research.
Owen's death? How does that relate to Donna?!
ReplyDeleteIt depends who they're aiming the episodes at. If its adults, then it will be from Torchwood or something to do with them. If it's aimed at the kids then it will be someone from Sarah Jane Adventures...
Meepp!!!! I'm SO psyshed!!!!
ReplyDelete"I'm not too familiar with the old series so correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that Sgt. Bambera saying Powering up?"
ReplyDeleteIt looks like her doesn't it? But she's apparently called Capt. Magambo
Yeah, at the end the ship explodes, but you can see s small white light - Davros' escape pod - flying away a split second before it blows up.
ReplyDeletecan i put back in my theories, which are kinda grabbing at the dark:
ReplyDelete1) the dead dr isn't actually the dr, but could be the John Simms (is that his name?) theres something about it that doesnt feel right to me.
2) somehow davros got the dr's hand is using that as a replacement- i just like this thought and could also aid davros with knowledge and what not.
I also dont mind if Christian Cooke being back, as he's rather pleasant on the eys.
"The plot meanders for a fair while, exploring a sci-fi spin on the butterfly effect."
ReplyDeletereference to the film or the time-line traveling theory?
i know the theory is something like a butterfly flapping its wings at a different time can drastically alter the future, sounds like we could have some confusing wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey type stuff? but got no ideas what it could be.
Basically (I've read this in a RTD) Turn Left refers to the choices we make - should I turn left or right? The Fortune Teller shows Donna another existance if she hadn't gone with the Doctor. The same way a butterfly choosing to fly in one direction can change a chain of events.
ReplyDeletegah, hate not being to edit but I read that this is a "what if" episode and a fortune teller is involved?
ReplyDeleteAn old enemy escaping in an escape pod could be the dalek that escaped in Doomsday and later turned up in series 3.
ReplyDeleteThis would lead to Davros.
An old enemy escaping in an escape pod could be the dalek that escaped in Doomsday and later turned up in series 3.
ReplyDeleteThis would lead to Davros.
Yep that's right Rossy. Wikipedia says:
ReplyDelete"Synopsis
Attending a carnival on the "Chino-planet of Shan Shen" exposes the Doctor and Donna to flags, pagodas and local colour. But when cajoled to have her fortune read for free, Donna's past is carefully examined - for a specific single event. Meanwhile, something creeps towards Donna's back. As the Doctor is missing, Donna must work with Rose, a traveller from a parallel universe, to prevent darkness encompassing the whole of creation."
If wikipedia is telling the truth of course!
"The true mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna in this episode will be familiar to fans of one of the Doctor Who spinoff shows."
ReplyDelete-- Sleeper Agents? ... omg BILLIS!!
I never thought of Billis! That's a great idea.
ReplyDeleteI also thought it may be that little girl that Jack had his cards read by? Apparently there is a fortune teller so you never know.
I think that its in an alternate universe where the Doctor gets killed by the ATMOS car. He gets sent into the river. They get him out. He was holding his sonic screwdriver when the jeep went in. Also, there is a jeep in the background when, (seriously guys, its definitely Ross), is speaking into his radio. HENCE the title, "Turn Left".
ReplyDeletebillis can travel through time just by walking and this beetle thats on donnas back is a time beetle or summit so it seems plausible that they have a connection ... maybe its billis's true form or summit lol
ReplyDeletewhats billis?
ReplyDeletein the torchwood series one finale he was this old guy who could travel through time by stepping from one point in time to another... he tricked the team into releasing a demon from beneath the rift
ReplyDeleteoh yeah. cheers.
ReplyDeleteand watching the confidential, some guy is sitting in the TARDIS and its got a bunch of wires and what not all over the place. backs up the pics and stuff we've seen with the her wired up.
must..stop....posting
ReplyDeletefound this:
In Toshiko's vision, her mother refers to something "coming from the darkness" - a running theme throughout the series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_Days_%28Torchwood%29
Who else thinks Rose has become extremely scary?
ReplyDelete*raises hand*
Ooh, this episode looks good! Ross, Rose, and Jack!? Sweet! I hope there is some way that Ross lives. Seriously, Ross+Jack, anyone?
ReplyDeleteBut the fortune teller and Billis both sound like good ideas. As long as Abbadon looks better this time around (asuming He shows up)
I was going to speculate as to whether or not that was Brigadier Bambera, but someone already beat me to that particular red herring.
ReplyDeleteAs for Davros, he last appeared in "Remembrance of the Daleks" with Sylvester McCoy, where he was last seen getting into an escape pod.
What about Jenny, wasn't she last seen in an escape pod????
ReplyDeleteJENNY!?!
ReplyDeleteWait, but she's not an "old enemy."
ReplyDeleteAnd it wasn't an escape pod, it was a rocket. Definitely not Jenny. *nod*
ReplyDeleteYeah, and also wasn't Jenny in spaceship not an escape pod?
ReplyDeleteLet's end all "escape pod" speculation now... It's Davros, dudes. Davros' last appearance was him flying away in an escape pod. The question is, is the clue a red herring? A lot of their red herrings this season have referred to old episodes.
ReplyDeleteI think Ross is alive. Look at the spot where he supposedly "dies," it looks like the beam goes right next to him. Plus, all the other soldiers yelled when they died; he didn't.
ReplyDeleteNow, if I were in that situation, and a beam *just missed* killing me, I'd play dead. I think Ross is alive and well and coming back.
Along with Davros...but come on, we've seen THAT from the spoilers since before this series started airing.
I think the message is "ELDRAD LIVES" ! :-P
ReplyDeleteI think the "mastermind" thingie is the Trickster from the Sarah Jane Adventures, I know they wouldn't give him a huge role or anything, but it just says it's someone who's the mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna.
ReplyDeleteI've heard rumours that she's gonna visit a carnaval of sorts, and gets her fortune read by someone, and I can see the Trickster in that role perfectly.
Look, i definately think that the soldier that everyone says is Ross, is actually one of the hypnotised soldiers that came across the green goo in the Sontaran two-parter! Anyone agree with me???
ReplyDeletePause the trailer at 28 seconds when the mirrors and lights are first being shown and you can see the tardis on the right...
ReplyDeletejust thought it was interesting :D
From what I can work out, the soldier is Harris who was indeed hypnotized and then later shot by the Sontarans.
ReplyDeleteThe Turn Left page has now been properly updated with the new trailer info as well :)
Whoa! You're right. The bad guy of Turn Left is the Trickster - he removed Sarah Jane from the timeline in order to feed from the energy that would be created by all the disasters when she left, and said he intended to do the same to the Doctor. That's why the Doctor is gone: he has been removed from the timeline by the trickster, who is feeding off the choas created by all the disasters in Turn Left.
ReplyDeleteAnd the New Dalek Empire in The Stolen Earth would agree to have the Doctor removed. Remember, the Trickster in SJA killed Sarah Jane in her past, but he could only do that with the consent of someone else, and he was defeated when that woman decided not to let the Trickster keep Sarah dead.
ReplyDeleteaccording to tardis.wikia.com Trickster will be played by Chipo Chong, she will not wear prosthetics and will be a fortune teller on shan sheng. Though I think at the end of the episode she will reveal herself.
ReplyDeleteThough a wiki isn't really trustworthy I still hope it's the fortune teller from TW.
Or maybe it's just a red herring!
That's what I've been saying - there's already been loads of speculation that the Doctor will be "removed from time" in Turn Left, and the culprit that jumped to everyone's mind was the Trickster. But I think it's a red herring, because it's totally characteristic of DigitalSpy to play off of fan speculation!
ReplyDeleteMaybe, hopefully, I'll be wrong and you guys can all yell at me. =D
Chipo is indeed set up to return (she played Chantho in series 3) and it is speculated that she'll be the fortune teller, although theres no proof as of yet.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I sort of doubt it'll be the trickster. I have no explanation as to why, but like n.t I think DigitalSpy is playing to our expectations. Besides, the Doctor isn't removed from time.
In SJA, Trickster just let SJ die when she didn't lived and let someone else live.
ReplyDelete"The true mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna in this episode will be familiar to fans of one of the Doctor Who spinoff shows."
ReplyDeleteIt Could just refer to the actor from Torchwood who will be playing Davros.
Description of the Trickster...
http://bloggathehutt.blogspot.com/2007_12_01_archive.html
- it could move backwards forwards and in and out of time
- Remove people from time and feeding on the alterations made to time.
- it seemed bound by the consent of those it changed things for (so when Andrea sacrificed herself and let SJA live, the Earth was saved.)
So does Donna choose to die
to let the doctor live?
Donna has a beetle on her back and soon Wilf finds antlers on his head too.
ReplyDeleteThat's true!!!!
Does anyone remember TFoP, Lucius said: "And you, daughter of London... there is something on your back."
"The true mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna in this episode will be familiar to fans of one of the Doctor Who spinoff shows."
ReplyDeleteYES! I KNOW!
Davros is played by julian Bleach (sp?). He also played the villain (Ghostmaker, or something) in a TW episode From Out Of The Rain. TW = spin-off.
SO the big bad is Davros. HURRAH!
"The true mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna in this episode will be familiar to fans of one of the Doctor Who spinoff shows."
ReplyDeletecould be death like in torchwood or as others have suggested, it might be the little card reader girl
on the trailer at 21 seconds you hear a scuttling noise like a beetle then if you pause at around 23 seconds you can see the thing on donna's back. Also in colin morgan's video diary at 55 seconds there are a load of stone things on set except that bit's probably useless.
ReplyDelete-wants this episode now-
ReplyDeleteanyone else think that a story arc could be the doctor's name as it seems to be mentioned alot this series :)
"Ross" is BLATANTLY a reference to Dav ROS. ROS. ROSS!
ReplyDeleteAlso rose.
Yeah.
*whistles*
I was going to say that if the spin-off series they are referencing is Torchwood, then it has got to be Bilis Manger. His ability to literally step through time would fit in perfectly with what little we know about this episode. Plus, he is possibly the creepiest character to have hit television in the last 10 years. :D
ReplyDeleteI definitely think the Doctor's name might very well be a story arc. From Fires of Pompeii, Doctor's Daughter, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, and now this. I'm sure there's more, but those are the most obvious.
ReplyDeleteNow that I think of it, the Bohemian Rhapsody bit makes sense.
ReplyDelete"Too late, my time has come,
Sends shivers down my spine-
Body's aching all the time,
Goodbye everybody, I've got to go-
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth-
Mama ooo- (any way the wind blows)
I don't want to die,
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all-"
Okay, after a ridiculous amount of thinking, here are my two:
ReplyDeleteThe true mastermind of the ill fate that happens to Donna in this episode will be familiar to fans of one of the Doctor Who spinoff shows.
Rose Tyler tells Donna that The Darkness is coming. Donna tells her that she saw them live in 2004 and they only had one good song.
Sorry, but who is Mr Chaudhary??? And what do they mean by 'his wandering hands cause Donna some consternation'?
ReplyDeleteI cant wait for this episode, but i still think The Doctors Daughter is the best episode of the series! But this episode or three parter lol will be very interesting. But VERY sad.
ReplyDeleteI assume Mr Chaudhary is the man who puts up Donna and her family when they're evacuated. I guess he's just a bit flirty with her or something.
ReplyDeleteJust to clarify, the UNIT soldier shown at the beginning of the Turn Left trailer saying that the Doctor is dead, is in fact Private Harris from The Sontaran Stratagem (one of the two hyponotized UNIT soldiers)...and this is definitely a show that takes place on a parallel Earth.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I'm not entirely sure that its definitely a parallel Earth. It might just be an alternate timeline, that could easily explain why Harris is alive as well.
ReplyDeleteThat might be a good explanation too...but I guess we won't know until next Saturday unfortunately :(
ReplyDeleteWhat if the Trickster from SJA is actually played by Chipo Chung but doesn't need someone's consent to cause the chaos of a world without the Doctor because it created a time beetle that does that for itself? It would explain an alternate time line, the rumors that Chipo Chung is playing a character called the Trickster, and as for her not wearing any prosthetics in this, the Trickster could just have possessed her or found a face or something like that.
ReplyDelete"And here's a rumored storyline for episode 11, "Turn Left": The Doctor dies fighting the Racnoss (back in the 2006 Christmas special), because Donna isn't there to help him. And the Judoon take over the hospital, killing Martha, because the Doctor's not there. Sarah Jane Smith also dies somehow. The Sontarans nearly kill everybody, and the Torchwood team all die. The Titanic crashes into Earth and causes a nuclear disaster. The Adipose wipe out America because the U.S. is full of fatties. And then the stars start to go out, because it's the end of the universe. And Rose/Bad Wolf comes back."
ReplyDeleteDid you hear about these? D:
Okay, time to attempt to poke holes in that.
ReplyDeleteWHY isn't Donna there to help him? WHY do the Judoon kill Martha? HOW does Sarah Jane die (and what does this have to do with the Doctor being dead)? And WHY does there have to be a hateful comment about America in there?
=D
Wonder if there's more Bad Wolf in Rose than Rose at this point...
ReplyDeleteRTD said about the story arc for this series that there will be "small but vital references going all the way back to series one".
ReplyDeleteAll the way back? That's an odd way to put it, as Series One of the new show was only a few years ago.
But if you go all the way to Series One of the Classic Series, and go to the Aztecs episode, you see that in the episode the Doctor refuses to let Susan interfere because of Aztec Customs, in which this case there is a required sacrifice in order to appease the darkness - in this case an eclipse. I.e. Someone must die to defeat the Darkness.
It's a bit of a long shot, but I wouldn't put it past RTD. In the commentary for FotD, he, Moffat and Tennant spend a fair bit of it talking about Classic-Who.
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ReplyDeleteWorth a read.
"WHY isn't Donna there to help him?"
ReplyDeleteBecause she turns right instead of left. Or possibly vice-versa. The events in this episode aren't real - but they could have been.
where did you get that extract from? Does it mean that the actual Donna from Runaway bride has not been in this series???
ReplyDelete"And WHY does there have to be a hateful comment about America in there?
ReplyDeletein honour of your presidents visit :)
"Because she turns right instead of left. Or possibly vice-versa. The events in this episode aren't real - but they could have been."
ReplyDeleteBefore or after she gets forcibly displaced to the TARDIS due to Huon particles in her body?
"in honour of your presidents visit :)"
Haha, I'll let that one go then. Just 'cos it's Bush. =P
Well, give America a chance and reveal where you're from so we can dutifully return the favor of kindness hmm....
ReplyDeleteIs Turn Left the episode where Donna gets hit by a truck??????
ReplyDeleteOMG! Here is the link for the tv trailer for Turn left!! :
ReplyDeletehttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u2JWkZsZXmA&feature=dir
Donna looks really upset when Rose tells her she is going to die
Hm, I'd agree with alternate time line, not parallel universe theory.
ReplyDeleteIf it's parallel universe/Pete's world, then how did Donna get there? Why is Doctor there? In series 2 in 'Age of Steel' Doctor said there were no Time Lords in that parallel world. How come he's dead and didn't regenerate?
It does points more to alternate timeline, which is more interesting in my point of view. All the what ifs?
I thought of Trickster when I read that 'mastermind' line just cos he spoke of removing Doctor from time, but then again it could be a red herring.
Could somebody explain the time beetle? Is it from the classis series? I know there's that picture of Sarah Jane with that beetle, same one?
I'm assuming donna can't see the beetle on her back? I wonder why?
ReplyDelete"Well, give America a chance and reveal where you're from so we can dutifully return the favor of kindness hmm...."
lol, Ireland. I'm gonna regret that...
Ya know, I just went back and watched the 'campfire trailer.' The first thing that Donna said was "There are things WAITING IN THE DARKNESS."
ReplyDeleteD'OH!!!!
No in the classic story "Planet of the Spiders" Sarah Jane has a mutated spider on her back not a beetle
ReplyDeleteNo in the classic story "Planet of the Spiders" Sarah Jane has a mutated spider on her back not a beetle
ReplyDeleteI'm leaning towards Billis and Abaddon being the spin-off clue. Abaddon was an apocalyptic demon whose very shadow caused death. Maybe that is the kind of darkness that Rose is talking about?Ianto quoted: 'Abaddon, will lead the world into shadow'. Hmmmm...
ReplyDeleteAlso, when Tosh and the Capt are about to go back to 1941, there is graffiti of Bad Wolf on the staircase. Why would Rose put a marker there?
Also, why wouldn't the Doctor regenerate??
ReplyDeletecan timelords play dead? you know, just pretend they're dead?
ReplyDeleteRomana played dead in Destiny of the Daleks. Then again also in that episode she regenerated several times changing her look and did it for the pleasure of it at will and without much effort and wasting her lives... let us not speak of that ever again though.
ReplyDeleteLOL...That little stunt really didn't go down well
ReplyDeleteThe radio times says donna biggest (dramatic) moment in TurnLeft is when she 'returns' to the circle of mirrors...
ReplyDeleteVoluntarily wiping/killing herself from the alternate no-doctor timeline?
Is the this where
'Donna dies' stems from?
It could be that the Doctor is dead because of the nuclear storms from the Titanic crashing into Buckingham Palace. He's wearing his black suit; there's a mushroom cloud which could be from the nuclear storms that powered the Titanic's engines; and Private Harris wouldn't have died because that time line would be before the Sontaran Stratagem
ReplyDeleteI think that the "Davros Lives" one is a red herring. Because firstly it doesn't seem like something Rose would say, and secondly it's too blatantly obvious.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I think Davros is back, just I don't think the phrase "Davros Lives" will be mentioned.
Well no, James, she might say that and then at the end of the episode it would be the "Rose is coming back, no matter what, isn't that good? Yeah. And she says that Davros lives. . . . insert big dramatic pause and Davros wheeling forward like in mid-series trailer" It could be made very dramatic if done properly.
ReplyDeleteOh, and Sageeth, I'm sorry, but I have to speak of Romana's regeneration. She wasn't wasting her lives, she was choosing one. In one of the classic series episodes it mentions that Time Lords choose their regenerations and can sample them first without losing any. I don't remember which episode though.
If ya find out, sam, I'd sure like to know which episode that was... there's a good deal of argument over whether or not Jenny regenerated.
ReplyDeleteMy vote goes with the Trickster too. I've thought he (it?) would be in Who series 4 (or some Series) ever since it mentioned him to Sarah Jane as being interesting...and the idea of removing the Doc from time and all the hassle that would result if he'd never been around to help/fix things? Way too fertile a suggestion to be ignored! :-)
ReplyDeleteI didn't know that Sam but still that doesn't go well with what we seem to see with The Doctor. He's always a little surprised at what he looks like and it is a stressful process for him and not something done for fun. I think that would have been all cover up, but us faithful fans pretend we never saw things we did just to make continuity work and such. Or we come up with long and strange explanations lol. That Dalek never had feet sticking out from below its skirt you were imagining things :p.
ReplyDeleteOhh and I'd agree with Donna if she does say The Darkness really only has one good song. I believe in a thing called love! Ahem <.<
It's just the phrasing "Davros Lives" doesn't sound... right... it's too blatantly obvious, spoils the momentum when we actually see Davros... and just the phrasing doesn't sound right for Rose.
ReplyDeleteLike I said I think he's back just... the phrasing sounds poo and not Rose-Like. It sounds as if she and the Doctor encountered him together for that phrase to sound right...
I don't know. It's just the phrasing seems weird.
I can explain why the Doctor is always surprised when he regenerates: when has he ever done it just because? Every time it's something that should have killed him, such as falling off that dish in the episode I didn't see, the Rani attacking his TARDIS, absorbing the Time Vortex which is supposed to kill whoever does that. It's stressful and surprising because he didn't choose to regenerate then, he just did so that he wouldn't die.
ReplyDeleteJames, you are a little right there, it does make it sound weaker.
Yep. Remember the Master from Utopia? He CHOSE to become "young and strong".
ReplyDeleteHe was dying, but was very calm... So he could guide his regeneration. I guess.
I wouldn't say it was an easy process by any means though at all... I mean look at all that light and energy blasting off of him. It looks painful to say the least. The Master didn't seem to have a fun time during the regeneration itself even if he was calm and in control. I wouldn't go through all that just to change my face a few times to get one I liked... ohh plus that with Romana was the only time we saw a Time Lord change into a look of something that wasn't exactly human looking.
ReplyDeleteOn an unrelated note, Jenny's "regeneration" would have to be different intentionally. Probably because they wanted Georgia back for the season finale or something and needed a way to keep her.
OK, I've changed my mind (you've certainly made it easier, Jess).
ReplyDeleteRED HERRINGS
Rose Tyler tells Donna that The Darkness is coming. Donna tells her that she saw them live in 2004 and they only had one good song.
Rose tells Donna two vital words to pass onto The Doctor. The first one is a name of an old enemy last seen in an escape pod. The second is "lives".
Oooh, the who said what!
ReplyDelete"Why won't you tell me **** ****?"
YOUR NAME
"This stapler says '***'."
Um... DIE?
"Why won't you tell me **** ****?"
ReplyDeleteyea i agree with 'your name'
the stapler one is weird...
RTD has stated in DWM that this is his 'Sliding Doors' episode. For those of you who've seen the film, this means that it presents an alternative 'What if' universe.
ReplyDeleteThe episode is premised on Donna being 'attacked' by a time beetle at the carnival which leads to her seeing an alternative universe in which she never met the Doctor. The events start in the run up to the Runaway Bride and are based on what would have happened if Donna had never met the Doctor. He would be killed by the Empress of Racnoss, the Titanic spaceship would hit the Earth, UNIT would pick up the TARDIS and lots of planets would have been destroyed without the Doctor to defend them (hence Wilf's comment). But then Rose needs to come back from her alternate universe as she's picked up on Davros and the Dalek's plans. And this will lead into the final 2 episodes...
what i dont understand is surely if donna had never got the job at h.c clements she would never have been pumped full of huon particles and the racnoss wouldnt have been all, powerful
ReplyDeleteHere's one for you. If the Doctor died destroying the Racnoss, what would have been the outcome of the Cult Of Skaro's plans ?
ReplyDeleteThe Darkness had more than one good song, 'Black Shuck', 'Get Your Hands Off My Woman', 'Knockers', 'Love Is Only A Feeling', 'Bald', 'Dinner Lady Arms', and 'Bareback'.
"what i dont understand is surely if donna had never got the job at h.c clements she would never have been pumped full of huon particles and the racnoss wouldnt have been all, powerful"
ReplyDeleteThey could have made another 'key.' It's not as if Donna was the only one compatible with Huon particles or anything, she was just easy for Lance to mislead.
"Here's one for you. If the Doctor died destroying the Racnoss, what would have been the outcome of the Cult Of Skaro's plans ?"
Oh dear...
"Here's one for you. If the Doctor died destroying the Racnoss, what would have been the outcome of the Cult Of Skaro's plans ?"
ReplyDeletehmm well, basically, we'd all be daleks....
"They could have made another 'key.' It's not as if Donna was the only one compatible with Huon particles or anything, she was just easy for Lance to mislead."
ReplyDeletethis would mean that this other 'key' would have turned up in the tardis. he/she could replace donna in every way, possibly even becoming a companion. or is that taking it too far?
Well, they might've just done as they did to Lance, and force-fed him/her the whole thing. I dunno, good point.
ReplyDeletethat donna s world not pete s world wait a sec this is our world
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